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This problem will never end since the law is subjective

Posted by Kelly on March 17, 2008, 5:45 am, in reply to "Re: "gee , the other notary didnt have any problem with it.""
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I hear your frustration, Dan - we all do! Our notary law gives us vague direction and we end up having to put our own spin on what we "think" it means - it's never been real clear and still isn't. Have you tried calling the Sec of State lately for interpretation? They don't answer anything - they just tell you to refer to section so-and-so and read it. Holy moly.

For me, I don't make any exceptions for Kathy-Kathryn, Joe-Joseph, Mike-Michael... I also don't make any exceptions for hyphenated names or surnames - the ID has to match the signature line of the document I'm notarizing exactly in these cases, my own interpretation just like Terri teaches. What about Betty-Elizabeth or Peggy-Margaret - Joe- Giovanni? Who thought of that!? And then, we have cultural issues to consider too - gentlemen who have their mother's maiden name as a part of their name, spouses who have different last names...the list goes on and on. That's why I just stick with one way and if I have to testify ever again, I will have no trouble remembering what I do because it's all right there in my journal and I have a habit, a way that I ID everyone I meet for notarizations.

You're so right about neighbors knowing a middle name Dan, LOL! But, our law insists that we resort to CW's to identify a signer/affiant. Not performing a lawful request is punishable too.

I have heard that our new 2008 laws were influenced by a lawmaker and law enforcement, none of which are experienced notaries public here in CA. So perhaps that's why it's still so messed up.

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"gee , the other notary didnt have any problem with it." - dan in ca March 16, 2008, 11:05 am
- Re: "gee , the other notary didnt have any problem with it." - PL2 March 16, 2008, 11:39 am
  - Re: "gee , the other notary didnt have any problem with it." - Terri - CA March 16, 2008, 5:20 pm
    - Re: "gee , the other notary didnt have any problem with it." - dan in ca March 17, 2008, 1:29 am
      - This problem will never end since the law is subjective - Kelly March 17, 2008, 5:45 am
        
        Re: This problem will never end since the law is subjective - dan in ca March 17, 2008, 10:19 am
        
        Re: This problem will never end since the law is subjective - Terri - CA March 17, 2008, 4:50 pm
        
        great thought terri.......i would do the same..... - dickb/wi March 18, 2008, 8:36 am
        
        Re: great thought terri.......i would do the same..... - Terri - CA March 18, 2008, 11:59 am
        
        Re: This problem will never end since the law is subjective - Craig/CA March 17, 2008, 7:04 pm
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--Previous Message-- : I hear your frustration, Dan - we all : do! Our notary law gives us vague : direction and we end up having to put : our own spin on what we : "think" it means - it's : never been real clear and still isn't. : Have you tried calling the Sec of : State lately for interpretation? They : don't answer anything - they just tell : you to refer to section so-and-so and : read it. Holy moly. : : For me, I don't make any exceptions : for Kathy-Kathryn, Joe-Joseph, : Mike-Michael... I also don't make any : exceptions for hyphenated names or : surnames - the ID has to match the : signature line of the document I'm : notarizing exactly in these cases, my : own interpretation just like Terri : teaches. What about Betty-Elizabeth or : Peggy-Margaret - Joe- Giovanni? Who : thought of that!? And then, we have : cultural issues to consider too - : gentlemen who have their mother's : maiden name as a part of their name, : spouses who have different last : names...the list goes on and on. : That's why I just stick with one way : and if I have to testify ever again, I : will have no trouble remembering what : I do because it's all right there in : my journal and I have a habit, a way : that I ID everyone I meet for : notarizations. : : You're so right about neighbors : knowing a middle name Dan, LOL! But, : our law insists that we resort to CW's : to identify a signer/affiant. Not : performing a lawful request is : punishable too. : : I have heard that our new 2008 laws : were influenced by a lawmaker and law : enforcement, none of which are : experienced notaries public here in : CA. So perhaps that's why it's still : so messed up. : : : : : :

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