Posted by dan in ca
(dannotary) on March 17, 2008, 10:19 am, in reply to "This problem will never end since the law is subjective"
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To me theres nothing subjective about it. I take whats on the ID or less than. No variations. This is the answer I have got when I called NNA or SOS. I'd rather walk away from anything whenever its gonna cause me the slightest bit of anxiety. I dont care if I dont get the income. I'd rather sleep well at night. The instances I am talking about were all cases where the middle name or initial or last name was completely different or non existent. Lots of notaries still will notarize it anyway evidently according to what I see and I see it too frequently. Thats why things get recorded wrong. I just tell them I am sorry and show them in the law book, that it is a felony and $10,000 fine for me and I am not willing to undergo that so that they can have their transaction. Call me crazy. As for lawful requests go, we will never be punished for eering on the side of caution and having a reason to.
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: I hear your frustration, Dan - we all
: do! Our notary law gives us vague
: direction and we end up having to put
: our own spin on what we
: "think" it means - it's
: never been real clear and still isn't.
: Have you tried calling the Sec of
: State lately for interpretation? They
: don't answer anything - they just tell
: you to refer to section so-and-so and
: read it. Holy moly.
:
: For me, I don't make any exceptions
: for Kathy-Kathryn, Joe-Joseph,
: Mike-Michael... I also don't make any
: exceptions for hyphenated names or
: surnames - the ID has to match the
: signature line of the document I'm
: notarizing exactly in these cases, my
: own interpretation just like Terri
: teaches. What about Betty-Elizabeth or
: Peggy-Margaret - Joe- Giovanni? Who
: thought of that!? And then, we have
: cultural issues to consider too -
: gentlemen who have their mother's
: maiden name as a part of their name,
: spouses who have different last
: names...the list goes on and on.
: That's why I just stick with one way
: and if I have to testify ever again, I
: will have no trouble remembering what
: I do because it's all right there in
: my journal and I have a habit, a way
: that I ID everyone I meet for
: notarizations.
:
: You're so right about neighbors
: knowing a middle name Dan, LOL! But,
: our law insists that we resort to CW's
: to identify a signer/affiant. Not
: performing a lawful request is
: punishable too.
:
: I have heard that our new 2008 laws
: were influenced by a lawmaker and law
: enforcement, none of which are
: experienced notaries public here in
: CA. So perhaps that's why it's still
: so messed up.
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