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    Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

    Posted by The Outsider on 19/12/2023, 12:47:49

    And so - without having all the information on Tom Lockyer - a pre-existing case of arterial fibrillation would not cause or be linked to cardiac arrest?

    Absolutely not, no.

    https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2023-12-18/heart-expert-explains-luton-town-captains-collapse-and-what-happens-next?fbclid=IwAR22HS6CQhC2p9sgv621penF1mDmNwMOPqTjg0-3Xmv-_uYtQQ7t-aEq6Ss_aem_Ad_fCmp70qi90AQ9gsML8X2_SSGmelAmZbShfgefvwq4U8J2H9kjObFBoSIOfyWRGDk

      Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

      Posted by Ches Fordroad on 19/12/2023, 13:00:09, in reply to "Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

      This was interesting too, shame it won't be read by the vax loons

      https://www.espn.co.uk/nba/story/_/id/39084645/bronny-james-know-heart-health-covid-19-vaccines

        Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

        Posted by James on 19/12/2023, 13:06:33, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

        So people are going down with heart problems more often simply because they're being evaluated more often?

          Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

          Posted by Electric shock on 19/12/2023, 15:02:16, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

          We know Covid impacts the heart and lungs so it stands to reason their will be more heart issues. There were also plenty before COVID, Erikson, Mumamba etc

            Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

            Posted by Ches Fordroad on 19/12/2023, 13:08:58, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

            Well, if you screen more people, more often, the chances are that yes, you're going to find more cases.

            That's kind of the point.

              Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

              Posted by James on 19/12/2023, 13:17:32, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

              It doesn't explain why players and fans hitting the deck with heart problems is now commonplace.

                Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                Posted by HertsHatter on 19/12/2023, 22:06:59, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

                Exactly.

                  Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                  Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 19/12/2023, 13:50:26, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

                  It's not really commonplace is it. And there were notable examples pre-2020 too.

                  Personally I find it amazing that if people do want to suggest there's a recent uptick, they are looking to blame the vaccines rather than the virus that is known to risk long term damage to every organ in the body and that pretty much everybody has caught at least once in the last three years.

                    Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                    Posted by Bellend Spotter on 19/12/2023, 13:31:52, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

                    Most football fans aren't in the best of shapes or have the best diets and lifestyles.

                      Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                      Posted by Ches Fordroad on 19/12/2023, 13:25:47, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

                      DO YOU'RE OWN REASEARCH

                        Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                        Posted by Boyd Crowder's Collar on 19/12/2023, 13:22:26, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

                        Define commonplace? It's just reported more and the difference between Heart Attack and Cardiac Arrest is more defined.
                        Marc Vivien Foe, Pavel Srnicek, Fabrice Muamba, Daniel Yorath - all examples of Sudden Adult Death with suspected Cardiac Arrest.
                        As am I - well before any vaccine.

                        The stats are the same as pre and post. The reporting is massively increased

                          Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 19/12/2023, 14:13:13, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

                          Don't know about the others, but Muamba is not dead.

                            Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                            Posted by Boyd Crowder's Collar on 19/12/2023, 14:16:29, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

                            I suppose where I was getting at is the overall bucket is Sudden Adult Death Syndrome and it happened before and will happen again. I "survived" it as did Fabrice Muamba.
                            I know you're not picking at it (I know which side you are coming from ! ) - i've just been doing a lot of explaining again this week due to my own history AND being the only Luton fan a lot of people in my world know! But being clearer is helpful, so feedback noted

                Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                Posted by Don't Stop Believing on 19/12/2023, 12:54:08, in reply to "Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

                Thanks for posting that. Very interesting interview.

                  Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                  Posted by Alien Nate on 19/12/2023, 14:24:09, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

                  It wasn't mentioned in the article, but they may try Ablation. Which involves going in at the groin with camera and burning off damaged bits of heart and the possibil problem area. Sounds like science fiction, but Lady Nate had to have it done and they are happy with the outcome. Obviously, time is the real test.

                    Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 19/12/2023, 14:26:34, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

                    My brother had a stent fitted via that route.

                      Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                      Posted by Alien Nate on 19/12/2023, 14:29:46, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"

                      Bizarre isn't it. Someone obviously had the idea over breakfast and then went to work and told others. Why did they not say "Don't be ridiculous"! 🤣😂

                        Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom

                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 19/12/2023, 14:36:00, in reply to "Re: Cardiac expert's comments about Tom"


                        I think it's one of the largest blood vessels in the human body and leads straight from and to the heart.

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