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    PL table without VAR

    Posted by The Outsider on 24/4/2024, 14:46:29

    Took me a while to work out that the changes are in small print under each photo. I was expecting to see an actual table. Obviously, there is a typo on our points but it appears that without VAR we would be above Forest. There is possibly an argument that some decisions would have been different if the officials knew that there was no VAR to make a decision for them and it can't account for incorrect decisions regarding red cards as nobody can measure what would have happened. There is also an argument that teams would have played differently if there had been a different scoreline. Without VAR, Forest would have one point fewer and we would have one more.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/new-premier-league-table-without-var-where-sheffield-united-sit-compared-to-nottingham-forest-everton-more/ar-AA1nwjX4?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=c8422e2a354942ec84529f64348def28&ei=17

      Re: PL table without VAR

      Posted by ELH on 24/4/2024, 15:11:20, in reply to "PL table without VAR"

      Weird table and I'm trying to think of what the differences are. Palace had a goal disallowed in the home game which gave us +2 and we had one disallowed against Chelsea which is -1. Sheff Utd game made no points difference. According to that table we must have another net -2.

        Re: PL table without VAR

        Posted by The Outsider on 24/4/2024, 16:45:49, in reply to "Re: PL table without VAR"

        Watkins scored a goal for Villa which was disallowed but VAR overruled and gave it. Without VAR, that would (in theory) have been a draw.

        I was thinking Bournemouth away but that was a bad miss rather disallowed by VAR, I think, and one of their goals was given by goal line technology, not VAR.

          Re: PL table without VAR

          Posted by ELH on 24/4/2024, 17:07:01, in reply to "Re: PL table without VAR"

          Yes, I forgot about the Watkins goal. I think because I thought it was onside at the time it didn't stick in my mind. Although that only takes us to net zero (not an environmental thread) as we would have theoretically drawn. There must be another decision if the article is correct.

            Re: PL table without VAR

            Posted by The Outsider on 24/4/2024, 17:36:31, in reply to "Re: PL table without VAR"

            Penalty at Newcastle given by VAR after ref gave free kick.

            That means that there's another two points somewhere?

              Re: PL table without VAR

              Posted by ELH on 24/4/2024, 17:53:55, in reply to "Re: PL table without VAR"

              Most likely a drawn game that we would have won without VAR, unless we've missed two. I can't think of any though. Or it's quite possible the article is wrong.

              All theoretical of course and not taking in to account that the games would have progressed differently.

        Re: PL table without VAR

        Posted by TPDC on 24/4/2024, 15:10:14, in reply to "PL table without VAR"

        Out of interest, how does it measure penalties awarded or overturned. Are penalties that were not given automatically assumed as scored?

        Must be a nightmare trying to work it all out.

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